MARVEL COMICS SUPER SPECIAL, A #1. (beat) Dear Lord, that sounds silly. Let's talk about the "Marvel Super Special" comics. [1] The members of the band had samples of their blood mixed into the ink used to print the first issue. Search by Issue # Filter by Timeframe Golden Age (1934-1955) Silver Age (1956-1971) Bronze Age (1972-1985) Copper Age (1986-1992) Modern Age (1993-Present) Compact View. I was doing a terrible job on it, Jim Mooney was a terrible fit for me — though he did the best he could — [and] it was just one disaster after another. Parents: Franklin and Mary Storm. [6] Simonson described working on the adaptation as "the worst experience of my comics career" due to the lack of visual reference and the inability of Marvel to obtain the likeness rights to the lead actors in the film. Marvel Comics Super Special [Marvel Super Special] #[1] About Analyzer Modeler. [6], The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension, "KISS vs. It was written by Archie Goodwin with art by Al Williamson, Carlos Garzon with Dan Green and Ralph Reese. Marvel Comics Super Special was a 41-issue series of one-shot comic-magazines published by Marvel Comics from 1977 to 1986. Marvel Super Special. Mar 1st, 1978 This special issue contains the following:A two page map of the Hyborian Age by Rick HobergRevenge of the Barbarian - a "free" adaptation of Robert E. Howard's tale "Black Vulmea's Vengeance" in color. Marvel Super-Heroes Spring Special # 1 0 . Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. Back in June we told you how a new Arcade 1Up had listed a new Marvel themed cabinet machine which would include games of X-Men Children of the Atom, X-Men Vs Street Fighter, Marvel Vs Capcom and X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse. No ratings or reviews yet. [14][15] A Dutch version with yet another different cover was published. Linkara: (sitting on his Futon) Hello, and welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. Marvel Comics Super Special Vol 1 21 - Marvel Comics Database. 1982. Issue #7 was withdrawn after completion, and never published. Staples fully attached. Interior pages in nice condition. One of those was the adaptation of BLADE RUNNER. Johnny and Sue Storm are the two most powerful members of Stan Lee's first super squad, the Fantastic Four. Marvel Comics Super Special #15. A Marvel Comics Super Special: Blade Runner is a comic book adaptation of the film, Blade Runner published by Marvel Comics in 1982.It was written by Archie Goodwin with art by Al Williamson and Ralph Reese.. KISS: A Marvel Comics Super Special ~ Volume 1, Number 1. Dive Deeper. Marvel Comics Super Special #16. Pepper. Where things get a little confusing however … They were cover-priced $1.50 to $2.50, while regular color comics were priced 30 cents to 60 cents, Beginning with issue #5, the series' title in its postal indicia was shortened to Marvel Super Special. Paperback – January 1, 1977. GRADE. This magazine size issue was published by Marvel in 1983. Release date: May 20, 1980. FMV & Sale History. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. There’s a different tack taken with this adaptation, as actual imagery from the film is used to illustrate it. Blasting into your reality from the Summer of 1977, it’s a double-sized KISS Super Special from Marvel Comics! "Star Trek: The Motion Picture". TO SLEEP, PERCHANCE TO DIE Star-Lord encounters a lost civilization of two billion people roaming the cosmos in a extraordinary ark. This is the offical adaptation of the movie from Lucasfilm and Twentith Century Fox. Adaptation by Walt Simonson, John Buscema, and Klaus Janson of the Lucasfilm/Paramount Pictures film directed by Steven Spielberg. "Warriors of the Shadow Realm: Part the First", "Warriors of the Shadow Realm: Part the Second - The Darklens Gems", "Warriors of the Shadow Realm: Part the Third - The Soul Shrine". 10 Invisible Woman & The Human Torch. Check out individual issues, and find out how to read them! $4.99 0 bids + $3.00 shipping . Marvel Super Special 16: The Empire Strikes Back collects issues 39-44 of the Marvel Star Wars series of comics; it has a publishing date of Spring, 1980 and a $2.00 cover price. It was never published in the U.S. "because the book was late and the movie proved to be a commercial failure," according to a contemporaneous news account, which added, without substantiation, that, "Reportedly, Marvel's adaptation was published in Japan". The plot was so convoluted and cheesy — even on the printed page — and after a while we realized it was not really going anywhere. Marvel Super-Heroes #1 - Spring Special by illyana_rasputin on January 16, 2010. item 2 MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL #27 STAR WARS RETURN OF THE JEDI MAGAZINE (1983 MARVEL) - MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL #27 STAR WARS RETURN OF THE JEDI MAGAZINE (1983 MARVEL) $39.99. Marvel Comics Super Special #7, by writer David Anthony Kraft and artists George Pérez and Jim Mooney. This is a complete comic book adaptation of Star Wars: Episode VI Return of the Jedi. [4], Marvel's licensed pulp fiction character, Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian, which was concurrently appearing in a long-running color comic book, starred in issues #2 (1977) and #9 (1978), with adaptations of the Arnold Schwarzenegger movies Conan the Barbarian[5] and Conan the Destroyer published as issues #21 (1982) and #35 (Dec. 1984), respectively. [4] This special was partially redrawn and expanded into three issues when Battlestar Galactica became a monthly comic book series. I was so grateful that the book never got an American release. Marvel Super Special #7, an adaptation of the film Sgt. Marvel Comics Super Special (Magazine) Publisher: Marvel. Each issue included text features and other additional material. Hide Key facts, Own, Want and Buy options. The writing was decent, and the artwork looked great. Marvel , 1978 Series. Jim Shooter/Editor-in-Chief. Join your favorite Super Heroes and Super Villains from different eras and realities as they go head-to-head with the time-traveling Kang the Conqueror in the all-new, original adventure, LEGO® Marvel Super … In honor of the debut of BLADE RUNNER 2049, I'd like to briefly revisit this adaptation. With that issue, the series' title in its postal indicia was shortened to Marvel Super Special. Release date: October 9, 1979. Opens image gallery. 1978 MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL #8 Battlestar Galactica Vintage Comic Book. Marvel Super Special #9: Date: 1978 Cover: John Buscema Writer: Various Penciller: Various Inker: Various Colorist: Various Letterer: Various Editor: Roy Thomas Title: "The Trail of the Bloodstained God" "Day of the Red Judgment" This Bronze Age treasure compiles interviews, a discography, and pics of the band with a multi-part Marvel Comics adventure penned by Steve Gerber.. As you appreciate the vivid red ink in this twisted tale, realize that the band mixed their own blood with the red ink at the print shop. Adaptation by Ralph Macchio, Gene Colan, and Tom Palmer of the. Release date: December 4, 1979. Marvel Super Special #16 / Marvel / 1980. In this episode, Linkara reviews a comic adaptation of the musical Xanadu! I got this press release that the Beatles documentary It Was Fifty Years Ago Today! Now that machine is still listed on the Arcade 1Up website, which is now said to include a Wi-Fi option for Online Play. Cover date: December, 1979. Cover date: March, 1980. Covers featured the title or a variation, including Marvel Super … Penciler George Pérez, recalled that Marvel had, ...nearly zero cooperation from the Robert Stigwood company [which produced the film] and we didn't realize that the [movie] script was still in so much flux that things we were putting in the comic were not going to appear in the movie and things we didn't know about were going to be added to the movie. Marvel Comics Super Special [Marvel Super Special] (1977) Refine. Take what you can get, Nelvana. Marvel Super Special #22: BLADE RUNNER. An adaptation of the movie starring Marvel's original spin-off character, Red Sonja, appeared as issue #38 (1985). The adaptations of Star Trek: The Motion Picture (issue #15) and Blade Runner (issue #22) were also reprinted in standard comic book format.[11][12]. A Marvel Super Special #8 Modern Promotions 1978 VG Battlestar Galactica . TO SLEEP, PERCHANCE TO DIE Star-Lord encounters a lost civilization of two billion people roaming the cosmos in a extraordinary ark. This is a magazine sized edition, a bit larger than a standard comic. The premiere issue, dated simply 1977, featured the rock band Kiss in a 40-page fictional adventure written by Steve Gerber, penciled by John Romita Jr., Alan Weiss, John Buscema, Rich Buckler, and Sal Buscema, which saw the quartet battling Marvel supervillains Mephisto and Doctor Doom. It got a Marvel Super Special! Picture Information. Free shipping. Image not … It has been suggested that this article or section be merged into Marvel Super Special Vol 1. [8] Except for a biography of The Beatles in issue #4 (1978), the remainder adapted fantasy, science fiction, and adventure films of the day, including Blade Runner, Dragonslayer, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai, and two Star Wars,[9][10] two Indiana Jones, and two James Bond movies, and such other films as Jaws 2 and the children's musical comedy The Muppets Take Manhattan. [2][3] Kiss reappeared in an occult adventure in issue #5 (1978). This is a complete comic book adaptation of Star Wars: Episode V The Empire Strikes Back. [13] A French translation was published by Arédit-Artima under two covers, one for the French market and one for the French-speaking Canadian market. Marvel Comics Super Special was a 41-issue series of one-shot comic-magazines published by Marvel Comics from 1977 to 1986. Also, I was paired with a very incompatible inker because the book was running so late. Number of Issues Published: Published in English (United States) #35. Be the first to write a … [6], The sole TV series adaptation was of Battlestar Galactica in issue #8 (1978), which was published in two editorially identical editions, one magazine-sized, one tabloid-sized. Browse the latest deals and special offers on digital comics and graphic novels from Marvel, DC Comics, Dark Horse, Image, and many more. Marvel Comics Super Special was a 41-issue series of one-shot comic-magazines published by Marvel Comics from 1977 to 1986. It was one of the nadirs of my career. It's about TIME! However, I wished that characters emoted their expressions better from panel to … [16], Pérez said Bob Larkin had done the cover art[17] but the actual artist was Tom Palmer. Cover date: October, 1979. [6] The other Marvel properties to be featured were the character Star-Lord in #10 (Winter 1979), the feature Weirdworld in #11-13 (Spring - Fall 1979),[4] and Howard the Duck in #41 (Nov. 1986), the final issue. (Discuss). Close. I got this press release that the Beatles documentary It Was Fifty Years Ago Today! MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL #7: SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND (UK) (1979) Marvel Comics. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, by writer David Anthony Kraft and artists George Pérez and Jim Mooney was promoted on the "Bullpen Bulletins" page in Marvel Comics cover-dated January 1979. Color wear on right edge front cover and on back cover bring the grade down. Published: Sep 1977. $4.88 + $4.99 shipping . Fair Market Value (FMV) calculated 11/12/2020. Marvel Super Special #40 was written in an abridged version of Labyrinth. These primarily included film and TV series adaptations, but also original and licensed Marvel characters, and music-related biographies and fictional adventures. Please fill out the following form to report a missing variant issue from the database. Marvel and NetEase Games have teamed up to deliver the most dynamic, eye-popping and faithful recreation of the Marvel Universe on the mobile screen. They were cover-priced $1.50 to $2.50, while regular color comics were priced 30 cents to 60 cents, Beginning with issue #5, the series' title in its postal indicia was shortened to Marvel Super Special. Covers featured the title or a variation, including Marvel Super Special, Marvel Super Special Magazine, and Marvel Weirdworld Super Special in small type, accompanied by large logos of its respective features. Adaptation by Archie Goodwin, Al Williamson, Carlos Garzon, Adaptation by Archie Goodwin, Al Williamson, Carlos Garzon, Tom Palmer, and, Adaptation by Bill Mantlo, Bret Blevins, and, Adaptation by Michael Fleisher and John Buscema of the Dino De Laurentiis Corporation/Universal Studios film directed by, Adaptation by Ralph Macchio and Bill Sienkiewicz of the Dino De Laurentiis Corporation/Universal Studios film directed by, Adaptation by Sid Jacobson, John Buscema, and, This page was last edited on 9 October 2020, at 06:29. Get ready to explore more possibilities and experience the action like never before! Bronze-Age. The Beatles: Sgt Pepper & Beyond came out on Video on Demand, DVD and Bluray today (September 8th). (Cut to a montage of shots of various "Marvel Super Special" comic covers) Linkara (v/o): Chances are, we'll be seeing a... lot more of these on the show in the future. Renato Casaro/Cover Artist. in: Pages with script errors, Comics, Week 19, 1982, and 44 more. 1st Solo Kiss comic/ Printed with real Kiss blood. Marvel Super Special 27: Return of the Jedi collects all four issues of the Star Wars: Return of the Jedi series. December 1984. [7], Issue #3 featured an adaptation of Close Encounters of the Third Kind by writer Archie Goodwin and artists Walt Simonson and Klaus Janson. Leap into battle in new costumes inspired by Marvel’s Black Widow alongside the new challenger Taskmaster! 1st Boba Fett appearance in comics. Marvel | Back To Marvel Comics Super Special, A | September 1977 | Volume 1 | USA | 64 Owned. Publication Dates: [September] 1978 - November 1986. The Beatles: Sgt Pepper & Beyond came out on Video on Demand, DVD and Bluray today (September 8th). Many were merely functional. A few stood on their own as exceptional works. I've yet to see a copy of Sgt. Marvel Comics Super Special: Blade Runner or just Blade Runner is a comic book adaptation of the film Blade Runner, published by Marvel Comics in 1982. See more. MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL #7: SGT PEPPER'S LONELY HEARTS CLUB BAND (UK) (1979) Marvel Comics. Marvel's first mobile MOBA game! F/VF (Fine/Very Fine) A beautiful comic structurally with only light corner wear in spots. This was issue 22 of the Marvel Comics Super Special series of titles which by this time only printed Marvel's movie adaptations. Marvel Comics produced a slew of movie adaptations from the Mid-70s to the Mid-80s. TITLE and DESCRIPTION. Marvel Comics Super Special Vol 1. Issue #8 was published in two editorially identical editions, one magazine-sized, one tabloid-sized. Browse the Marvel comic series Marvel Super Special (1977 - 1986). Show Covers only: Sales Rank #513 See Top 2,500 Publisher Marvel • Movies Ages_13-16 First Issue #1 - September 1977 Last #41 - November 1986 Most issues of Marvel Comics Super Special comic books adapted a movie in a magazine-sized format, although some issues featured a story that was not a movie adaptation, such as issues #1 (about the rock group Kiss). That’s a bit like getting a board game parting gift after losing the Showcase Showdown, but beggars can’t be choosers. They said they were going to have all these superstars appear at the end of the film and, of course, in the end they couldn't get them — not that we could have used them anyway, because we didn't have the licenses to use their likenesses. Amazing Fantasy #15 (Spider-Man's First Appearance), Tales of Suspense #39 (Iron Man's First Appearance), Incredible Hulk #181 (Wolverine's First Appearance), https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Marvel_Comics_Super_Special_Vol_1?oldid=5754007, Pages using DynamicPageList parser function. Doctor Doom is the best and/or worst comic you'll read today", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Marvel_Comics_Super_Special&oldid=982610297, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, Adaptation by David Anthony Kraft, George Pérez, and, Adaptation by Roy Thomas, John Buscema, and Tony DeZuniga of Robert E. Howard and, Original story by Doug Moench, John Buscema, and, Weirdworld: "Warriors of the Shadow Realm". Marvel Database is a FANDOM Comics Community. Marvel Super Special (1977) #10. Original story by Doug Moench, John Buscema, and Rudy Nebres. Get the Deluxe Edition now and gain access to the main game and season pass content! 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